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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The logs are here, organized by the date they're posted to the website rather than by the dates they actually occurred. They're also mixed in with other announcements:

http://www.thegreattree.com/tree/modules.php?name=Stories_Archive

Just separating the logs from the flotsam and putting them in chronological order would be a tremendous help. After that, we need to figure out what is significant (or not) about each log, i.e, "Sharper rousing dissent near DRC Tent"... and then it'll be easier to decide what we want to film and what isn't important.

No trimming needed - just identification and sorting. As I understand the plan, the Professor and Moiety Jean will trim as they adapt logs into scripts. And Gilligan will provide comedic relief.

(It's past midnight, I'm due at least one dumb joke centering around 'The Professor'.)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marten wrote:
And Gilligan will provide comedic relief.

Good, because I'm not very good at that. I'm only good at laughing at my own dumb jokes as evidenced by last weekend. *lol*

There I go again... and I didn't even make a joke. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two main areas I'd like to contribute on are:

  • video postproduction (editing, titles, publishing, etc.)
  • collaboration between our two groups


While working on scripts, let's assemble a paragraph or three synopsis of the events to put in the Explorers Guild history section. There we could also display/link to the videos at Great Tree.

My skype name is "adegkid" if we'd like to get some voicechat meetings going. Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you elaborate a bit on the synopsis idea? I'm not sure I get it 100%.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Instead of just a list of links titled "Episode 1" "Episode 2" "Episode 3", he wants a brief description of what will happen in each Episode.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah! Gotcha.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor Askew wrote:
Could you elaborate a bit on the synopsis idea? I'm not sure I get it 100%.


Similar to the the synopsises here: http://uruexplorers.com/reference/basics/history.php

But I'd like to expand them. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to categorize the chat logs because I haven't heard of any progress from anyone else on this matter. I've discovered at least one conflict that hopefully can be sorted out.

The following two chat logs purport to have occurred on the same day and at the same time, involve the same person (Phil Henderson), yet they relate different events. Therefore, at least one must have occurred at a different time or day. One log is by Brian, the other, by Farlesis (speaking of which, where is he these days?)

http://www.thegreattree.com/tree/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=31

http://www.thegreattree.com/tree/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=30
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I could be more help with the organization of the logs, but I just wasn't there for all the important conversations so I can't put them in chronological order.

When you're ready, though, put some logs in my hands and I'll work on turning them into scripts.

Are we going to be accurate to the letter about this, or shall I correct some grammar, spelling, and whatever else for clarity's sake? I'm assuming no artistic license will be used here.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wasn't there for these events either. I joined in January. So, I am going by Brian, Professor Askew, and Farlesis's notes on each chat log entry about when the event occurred. The only events in discrepancy appear to be two logs dated December 2nd. There is no log for December 3rd, so my guess is that we have a typo and one of the events occurred the next day. It would be nice to know which one. The only other situation where there's a clear overlap, we know there actually was an overlap (two things happened at once, in different places).

Edit: This list was originally full chronological order, but is now divided into "used" and "unused" segments to focus clarity on the content we intend to cover.

Here is the list; these are links to the logs on the website.
Episode Zero: The Beginning
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
(no chat logs for this episode)

Episode One: Planting the Seeds
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
Episode One will need to open briefly explaining more immediate backstory: Reference messages regarding Phil's disappearance*, and note that in response to increasing numbers of explorers appearing in the Cavern, the DRC has cordoned off areas previously open due to concerns of safety under higher levels of traffic.
( * Also remember that drcsite.org will be down Aug 14 and 15, 2006 )
November 19, 2003 3:35 PM Douglas Sharper
November 19, 2003 3:45 PM Phil Henderson and Zardoz

Episode Two: "You Need To Hear"
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
November 28, 2003 12:55 PM Henderson returns again, encounters the DRC

Episode Three: Sides are Chosen
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
November 24, 2003 8:58 PM Douglas Sharper
November 25, 2003 7:28 PM Sharper & Engberg
November 25, 2003 10:49 PM Brian Fioca
November 29, 2003 The Sit-In at the Great Stair (Interview appeared in The Echo on December 17)

Episode Four: The Power of Returning
Script by Moiety Jean
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
December 2, 2003 7:07 PM ** Henderson, Sharper, & Fioca: Islands Page revealed
December 2, 2003 7:11 PM ** Phil Henderson (Brian not Brian Fioca)

Episode Five: Safety First
Script by Moiety Jean
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
December 5, 2003 5:51 PM Fioca & Engberg in GoG
December 6, 2003 8:32 AM Fioca & Engberg; Phil & Sharper

Episode Six: Conversations with Victor Laxman
Script by Rils
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
December 11, 2003 4:31 PM Laxman and the Great Zero
December 11, 2003 "Late" Henderson, Sharper, Laxman, Fioca pt 1
December 11, 2003 Henderson, Sharper, Laxman, Fioca pt 2
More complete version of Henderson, Sharper, Laxman, Fioca - courtesy John Lynch

Episode Seven: Kidnapped!
Script by Moiety Jean
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
December 15, 2003 3:39 PM Phil Henderson Kidnapped

Episode Eight: Unrest in Ae'gura
Script by Rils
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
December 17, 2003 Doug Sharper incites unrest, opens pub
Pub opening log
pictures
December 18, 2003 11:18 AM Rand Miller, Dr. Watson, hostile crowd

Episode Nine: The Secret Room
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
December 19, 2003 (Earlier) Sharper opens the Egg Room
December 19, 2003 10:19 PM Douglas Sharper in the Egg Room [unformatted]
December 19, 2003 - 7:00 PM - The DRC permits Tink to visit Phil

<Note: Holiday decorations go up on December 21>

Episode Ten: Resistance and Consequence
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
December 22, 2003 11:59 AM Uru Obsession Sit-In; GT begins to form
December 22, 2003 6:37 PM Sharper penalized; Path of the Shell

<Note: Kam begins Kinjo no Surudoi after Sharper loses his Pub>

Episode Eleven: The Fall of Phil Henderson
DISCUSSION THREAD HERE
December 26, 2003 10:00 AM Phil Henderson's Accident
December 26, 2003 10:00 AM Phil's Accident (second copy)

As explained by NSymon:
Quote:
In the beginning of January Kam called a meeting for all interested people to attend including members of ‘Kinjo no Surudoi’, by the end of the meeting ‘Kinjo no Surudoi’ no longer existed and the Great Tree Neighbourhood had been created. No longer a private group it was open to everyone within the Cavern and spreading the message of the Great Tree and its symbolism became an important endeavour.


(Unused)
November 26, 2003 6:43 PM Douglas Sharper
November 24, 2003 7:32 PM Phil reappears briefly
December 1, 2003 11:38 PM Brian Fioca
December 4, 2003 12:47 PM Phil Henderson
December 8, 2003 11:36 PM Henderson & Sharper; Sharper's journey finished
December 10, 2003 8:24 PM Phil in Maverick Hood
December 18, 2003 9:00 PM Sharper & Fioca discuss Phil, GZ
The above log is mismarked as occuring on 12/14 at 9pm; it actually occurs on 12/18 around 5pm. Hm! Are chat log times specific to the person logging, or are they in cavern time?
December 18, 2003 4:48 PM Douglas Sharper in UO [unformatted - same as above, different person logging; overlapping]
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just reading over these. There are so many Subtleties that we need to point out, like when I was literally watching Doug take the journey from my KI (he went to Teledahn, Gahressen, the Eders, and Kadish, and to the Bahro Cave and Relto), and this rather telling conversation with Engberg:

Quote:

Michael Engberg: Brian, I don't leak anything. Loose lips sink ships.
Brian Fioca: Interesting. So, you do have something to hide then?
Michael Engberg: It's just a saying.
Brian Fioca: I see. That it is.
Michael Engberg: Again, it’s just a saying.
Brian Fioca: Yup. You're right.
Michael Engberg: Brian, I will bring up the concern about giving more information out.


So many others, too.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following episode one: the formation of the Great Tree group, the appearance of the Islands page, Sharper aligning with Phil, Sharper taking the Journey, Phil getting kidnapped, the explorers standing up to Dr. Watson, the sit-in, the opening of the egg rooms, breaking into the Kahlo pub (and the suspension of Sharper from the GT pub restoration) and finally Phil's accident.

How's that? Is that too much? Or too little?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all good, fellas. Me likes.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The formation of the Great Tree group really started with the sit-in at the Uru Obsession 'hood, so, after the "Islands" event. And even then, it wasn't really the "Great Tree Neighborhood", but rather, Kam's "Kinjo no Surudoi" 'hood. It was replaced by the Great Tree at the start of January, after the events of all of the chat logs we have; if anyone has a chat log of the formal Great Tree 'hood creation meeting, that would be an appropriate chapter to add to this series.

For a good write up of how these events intertwined, see: the History of the Great Tree posted by Farlesis.

I'm editing the above list of chat logs to propose some divisions (incomplete at this time). It's a lot of material still, and so I think we may have to drop more pieces.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marten wrote:
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December 14, 2003 9:00 PM Sharper & Fioca discuss Phil, GZ


Ah, the one chatlog I'm in. Not too important, though, just going over stuff we already know.

Marten wrote:
December 15, 2003 3:39 PM Phil Henderson Kidnapped


Obviously Phil getting kidnapped is an important one. It could exist as its own self-contained episode. It would give us a chance to recreate something that everyone glimpsed from afar. It would also give us a chance to film in the city.

Marten wrote:

December 17, 2003 Doug Sharper incites unrest
December 17, 2003 Echo interviews Brian Fioca
December 18, 2003 11:18 AM Rand Miller, Dr. Watson, hostile crowd


Cutting these three logs into a montage of unrest could be interesting. They're thematically similar, but they involve three different groups.

Marten wrote:
December 18, 2003 4:48 PM Douglas Sharper in UO [unformatted]


This log is the same as the Dec 14th one.

Marten wrote:
December 19, 2003 (Earlier) Sharper opens the Egg Room
December 19, 2003 10:19 PM Douglas Sharper in the Egg Room [unformatted]


The Egg Room special!

Marten wrote:
December 22, 2003 11:59 AM Uru Obsession Sit-In; GT formed


I can't really think of anything that would go along with this.

Marten wrote:
December 22, 2003 6:37 PM Sharper penalized; Path of the Shell


If we had the log from the Kahlo pub, we could put this one at the tail end of it.

Marten wrote:
December 26, 2003 10:00 AM Phil Henderson's Accident
December 26, 2003 10:00 AM Phil's Accident (second copy)


Obviously these could be self-contained. There's enough material there for a good lenght, some of which we don't have to film, thanks to those live videos.
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