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Zardoz Explorer


Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 38 Location: On the bluff
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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I was at the Great Zero, as I had received a tip that something would happen in the "cavern," and worried that the Great Zero might be at some risk. I was monitoring the reports from the DRC Town Hall and read the report of Kadama’s distress. Shortly thereafter, I also heard the loud Bahro scream and was forcibly linked out to my Relto (after a brief detour to a strange land I’ve heard others refer to as "desktop"). I did not notice any change in the operation of the GZ as I was linking out, but cannot vouch for its condition after I left. |
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Cycreim Great Tree Officer


Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 1274 Location: Toronto, ON
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think the city's going to be in any bad shape when we get back, but I'd stay away from it just the same... at least for a little while. I want to hear from the DRC on this issue. _________________ KI: 34353 |
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BladeLakem Great Tree Member


Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 514
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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The implication of this is significant, I think. The Bahro (assuming it's the Bahro) can link hundreds of people simultaneously with no visible mechanism or interaction. Even if those people are in different Ages.
You know what that means? That means that no matter where you are, what universe you are in, if a Bahro wants to come get you, there is nothing to stop them.
I have no idea what the intent of the action is. But the scope is staggering, and concerning. |
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dcos Great Tree Member


Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 1174
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | But the scope is staggering, and concerning. |
Its a borderline, if not a fully terrifying, ability.
Thats before you even begin to consider some of the horrific places you could be forced to against your will. |
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Dusante Woot


Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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dcosgrove wrote: | And heres one point no one has mentioned yet:
What if the Bahro, if indeed it was them as most are thinking now, were not acting of their own free will?
What if someone else is controlling them?
Not naming names but its a scary thought. |
Wow that is a frightening thought, I wish we can hear from them what is really going on, the only person who I think could probably know better than us is Yeesha as she seems to be able to communicate with them, I hope we hear from her or the Bahro somehow.
Or even, what if there is a reason besides power that they were enslaved by the D'ni, that without this control, the Bahro are... dangerous.
Or perhaps they are just not as united as we think they are, much like people, there could be bad apples or different factions, maybe even extremists.
I want to know what's really happening as none of us have ever heard of this happening... _________________ KI: 40864
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Zardoz Explorer


Joined: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 38 Location: On the bluff
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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BladeLakem wrote: | The implication of this is significant, I think. The Bahro (assuming it's the Bahro) can link hundreds of people simultaneously with no visible mechanism or interaction. Even if those people are in different Ages. |
Is there evidence that explorers in different Ages were linked back to their Relto? I've heard of people in Ae'gura, the hoods, and myself at the Great Zero, but those are the same Age, of course. |
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Dusante Woot


Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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I think others were in ages and in the Nexus and also got linked to relto. So far haven't heard of people in Relto getting linked to relto tho  _________________ KI: 40864 |
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Gadren Great Tree Member

Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 218
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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It is certainly concerning, and one more reason why we need to learn more about who the Bahro are. I hate to sound paranoid, but "simple oppressed race of creatures" isn't a sufficient explanation when dealing with this kind of power.
Anyway, if you've heard the recording of the scream/link event, download it again. Robert The Rebuilder was able to talk with people who heard the scream and identified the exact sound, and he's fixed his video. It's an even creepier sound. The filename is xBahro_PainScream02.wav. That may help indicate the reason for the scream and subsequent linking.
Here's the video -- download it again: http://www.bergen-hill.com/rtr/dmala_linkout_screech.wmv
Edited by Marten - De-emphasized OOC content |
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dcos Great Tree Member


Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 1174
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Dusante wrote: |
Or even, what if there is a reason besides power that they were enslaved by the D'ni, that without this control, the Bahro are... dangerous.
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I too would like to hear from Yeesha... or Phil.
This thought, that the Bahro might be dangerous has occured to me before, when it did I felt guilty. What could we have been unleashing? Not just our own world or our own Age but every world and every Age on the Great Tree. So I trust in Yeesha and hope that she knows a whole lot more than she is letting on, because what else is there to do when you think such things? |
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Professor Askew Great Tree Member

Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 2532 Location: Bloomfield, CT
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yes! That is the sound I heard. Very scary.
I'm going with Dan's thought...the Bahro aren't dangerous (my words) based on the fact that we were all linked to Relto. Anything less and everything that has come before would paint me quite the chump. I'm nowhere near ready for that. So for now, my outlook is that the Bahro removed us from harm's way. I expect things to be quite different in the City when next we all meet. _________________ Professor Daniel Askew - Securing our reality from the machinations of the Station Masters. |
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Ashtar Friend of The Great Tree


Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Posts: 321 Location: Spokane, WA.
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Cycreim did look pretty pale today when I saw him in the hood. I hope he is OK. The event scared me a bit also, but I think I was more in awe of such power. And that power is not controlled by the DRC, Yeesha, or us. But by the Bahro. We have heard the cry of the least.
Ashtar _________________ Uru Live KI #: 69208
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JohnLynch Veteran Explorer

Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 71
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Dusante wrote: | No I don't think they would right away | Wow. I'm not the happiest with the DRC, but wow. If ever it happens, then you can call me naieve. But the only people who will try to enslave/forcibly control the Bahro are explorers and perhaps some of the D'ni survivors.
dcosgrove wrote: | I have never fully trusted the Bahro. They are just too "alien." If I think on it too much it begins to border on a fear, specifically of their potential. | I don't fear them because they're alien. I fear them because we know so little about who they are and their motives.
BladeLakem wrote: | The implication of this is significant, I think. The Bahro (assuming it's the Bahro) can link hundreds of people simultaneously with no visible mechanism or interaction. Even if those people are in different Ages.
You know what that means? That means that no matter where you are, what universe you are in, if a Bahro wants to come get you, there is nothing to stop them.
I have no idea what the intent of the action is. But the scope is staggering, and concerning. | I was in a Nexus node. Not only was I linked out, but I heard the tap-tap-tapping of Bahro feet before I was linked out. I went to turn around (I'm in an enclosed space, so they had to have been very close) but they linked me out before I was able to turn around completely.
To put a damper on people's theory that the Bahro were saving us: What possible danger could there be in Ae'gura, the Nexus, the hoods, the Great Zero, Kadish Tolesa, Teledahn, Eder Gira, Eder Kemo and Gahreesen? Because AFAIK the Bahro did not discriminate. If you were in one of those locations, the Bahro linked you. IMO there isn't any danger that could affect all of those locations. |
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CuzinJohn Great Tree Member


Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 775 Location: Note to self - fix Avvie and Sig Graphics...
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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JohnLynch wrote: | To put a damper on people's theory that the Bahro were saving us: What possible danger could there be in Ae'gura, the Nexus, the hoods, the Great Zero, Kadish Tolesa, Teledahn, Eder Gira, Eder Kemo and Gahreesen? Because AFAIK the Bahro did not discriminate. If you were in one of those locations, the Bahro linked you. IMO there isn't any danger that could affect all of those locations. |
Well... clearly the Bahro didn't mean to Harm anyone, as far as I've heard, no one was hurt.
If the intent was not meant to harm, we can assume perhaps that is was meant to help. That assumption may be a little broad, but well worth consideration.
I don't know what danger could have affected all the various locales and Ages that would not also affect Relto... but just because we can't imagine it does not make it impossible.
Did you ever imagine that touching a book could take you someplace else before the first time you experienced it? Quite frankly, if THAT is possible, I'm willing to believe that anything is. _________________ KI 182798
Science is how you talk about the universe with words that bind it to a common reality.
Magic is how you talk to the universe with words that it cannot ignore. |
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Cycreim Great Tree Officer


Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 1274 Location: Toronto, ON
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe they're preparing something to show us something...
Tomorrow. Find your Journey shirt. Let's go into the city. We'll see if they're, uh, willing to talk? _________________ KI: 34353 |
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JohnLynch Veteran Explorer

Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 71
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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CuzinJohn wrote: | Well... clearly the Bahro didn't mean to Harm anyone, as far as I've heard, no one was hurt. | No, but then I'm not saying that. I'm saying they did it as a show of force. This was just a threat. A display of power. Next time we might not be so lucky.
And if I'm wrong I'll be the first to apologize. But I do doubt there was danger. I really do.
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