The Great Tree

[Montgomery]

Reposted from here, on the Uru Association of Guilds site:

Given this, posted today from Earthwizard ...

[Moiety Jean]

I never actually understood what this whole AoG thing was about. I guess I got confused and brushed it all off because it seemed to me that there were several such organizations attempting to gain recognition at around the same time, and none of them actually went anywhere.

If I may toss my personal feelings out there... I am not, myself, particularly interested in an organization to unify the guilds and groups out there. Many individual groups exist, and as Earthwiz said, they don't often get along well together. I think part of the reason for the different groups is that some of them don't care to be part of a larger organization, or to interact much with other groups. The D'net already is in place to distribute news and organize meetings among the in-character groups.

But I feel like I'm missing the point somehow. Maybe somebody could illuminate things for me a little.
_________________
~Moiety Jean

KI#44727
"There is a certain beautiful danger when a group of geeks get together to entertain themselves." ~Orin Drake

[Durin Mephit]

If I may offer my opinion: I think the AoG is... as politely as I can put it... ahead of its time.

I do not see where there is a space for an AoG when there isn't much space for Guilds at all, yet.
_________________
Durin Mephit * Member of Guild of Messengers - Unless otherwise stated, opinions are mine only and not Guild endorsed.
rel.to | Marten KI: 59474 | Durin M KI: 11883768

[janaba1]

The point is not, if I may say this straight away, the AoG or any other Guild. I'm afraid that the situation is more worse than many of us are maybe ready to realize,
as far as I understood what Earthwizard wanted to express. So I'd like to emphasize the points that made me think like that and chimed the bells:

[Arionel]

It's really sad when I see these kind of posts. I'm a newcomer to a certain extent, and don't know what efforts veteran explorers have put in to keep Uru alive.

I don't know what opinion to have. MOUL has been given a second chance, and when vets are giving up after only a few short months after a re-release, hmmmm....at least it's only one voice I hope.

I have seen many ideas for bringing so much into the world of MOUL, some are good, others...well, we just don't see them. As far as groups go, they'll come and go, as well as groups that try to head other groups that head other groups. Survival of the fittest. That's evolution, I'm sorry to say. We're seeing that now in MOUL.
_________________
I am Arion Lightseeker, ever searching for Wisdom and Light.

[Rils]

Well, "I'm Leaving" posts are certainly nothing new to the Uru world. meh.

However, this one caught my attention, cuz, well, I can empathize with him.

OOC Warning.

I too discovered Guild Wars last, oh, Christmas time or so. Until then I had never played another MMO besides Uru, and had of course been hearing about games like WoW and GW and numerous others. I thought I'd give one a try, just to see what the hype was about. Guild Wars is unusual in that it doesn't have a monthly fee associated with it - just buy the game for $50 bucks or so and you've got unlimited play time for as long as they keep the servers up! The game has sucked me in, and I share many of the same observations as earthwiz. The graphics are beautiful, and the variety and attention to detail in the scenery is mind blowing. The gameplay is infinitely repeatable, with a huge set of variables to mess with. In all honesty, it's a far better game than Uru.

However, that doesn't mean I would/will quit MOUL! They are two different games. For one, ArenaNet (the company that does GW) has been building that sort of game for several years now, and has a large number of titles in that genre to have perfected their craft. MOUL is the first time Cyan has done this, they are building it from scratch, and are learning as they go. There has to be a certain benefit-of-the-doubt given them.

I have to say that the community here is far more unified than than in GW. There are social circles "Guilds" built around common goals or friendhsips; I've joined one that consists of fellow Uru players. But in general, the public areas are NOTHING like the Cavern as far as friendliness and social interaction go.

I'd say it depends what you are looking for. Uru is an alternate reality game; games like GW are role-playing games. Each has their strengths and weaknesses, and aren't really comparable on a meta-level. I think Uru can learn a lot from games like Guild Wars; I've been half tempted to write them and suggest they play around with that particular game for inspiration. But I also have to realize that Uru hasn't reached that level of development yet, and we need to be patient with them while they work the kinks out. GW isn't perfect either.

So here's to two great games, and to the future of MOUL. May Cyan be successful beyond our wildest hopes.
_________________

[Arionel]

Hear Hear Rils!
_________________
I am Arion Lightseeker, ever searching for Wisdom and Light.

[DragonMac]

Well I hate to see you go just when I got back, lol. I just found out, sorry. I played Ragnarok for over a Year after Uru was closed with such high hopes. The continued private effort was good but I felt it would be recycled content with no real future. Guess I was wrong. I have been Playing D&D online but have gotten tired of it quickly since I stopped Ragna in March.
Uru is very different then other MMO's and always will be, it's Rand an Cyan. This is more a social, intellectual MMO rather then RPG hack slash level get rich in game. It is an MMO/SIM where U R U, hopefully, lol.
I am so happy it is back and I will be proud to join the community again. Hopefully I won't have to hang off the bridge again to keep this reincarnation alive.
As far as what the game needs I'm not sure yet but I look forward to exploring all the new content. That was the goal of the first launch to release new content often and keep the world growing. Unfortunately we never got to see that since the plug was pulled before the stream of new worlds and puzzles to solve could be rolled out in a paid online game.
From what I have read so far on the greeter site and others is that things are just getting started and Cyan should have much for us to do in the coming months. To leave now would be foolish since I hope this is as I hoped before the start of something BIG. Worlds will grow, Word will spread, Witnesses will come, and Wisdom shall prevail.

[Erik]

Welcome back to URU again, DragonMac! Indeed, the cavern breathes again, and there's a lot to come in the coming months. See you in the cavern.