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Durin Mephit · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:34 am Post subject: While we wait... Part 2: Talk

This evening, Greydragon invited a bunch of people to his Teledahn.

Before I broke his bookshelf ( Embarassed

sorry GD! ), I asked him if he had a request for any future music videos I might do.

He did.

Coldplay: Talk.

Sadly, because of the bookshelf-breaking (actually, I blame vid - he used it just before me), I didn't get to go to Teledahn.
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JohnLynch · Veteran Explorer Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 71

So I wonder, was this an aborted (thanks to a certain someone Wink

) test to see how many people an Age could hold? Or was there something in Teledahn he wanted us to see?
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Durin Mephit · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:05 am Post subject:

I think he's just lazy and wants people to solve his Ages for him.

Cool

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Mystlander · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:29 am Post subject:

/me ROTFLMAO!

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JohnLynch · Veteran Explorer Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 71

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Durin Mephit · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject:

Trying to attack Greydragon's request in my head. There are some good points in this song that fit to Uru in an OOC sense; making it fit IC will be a little difficult. This has me at a loss... so I'm turning here. I think this song would need to show some avatars in a video, not just scenery... the song is about communication. So there has to be people.

Talk

Mystlander · Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject:

Your prelim seems very appropriate to me, Marten. I still have Alcug's TPOTS installed, if you need a helping hand. Wink

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Durin Mephit · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:06 am Post subject:

I've forked the discussion of the next music video from the last one. They were intermingled.

As events have begun to unfold, they have given me some ideas. So here is test #2. Scenes will probably move around, change, etc.

But this is a good opportunity to suggest changes. Please don't nitpick on image quality or brightness or color. I always take care of those before I finish a film. Rather, I'm looking for highly creative ideas such as:

* A better way to scale a picture from the KI to fullscreen, or if I should keep the appearance of the KI, etc.
* What should I place in "Unfinished scenes"
* Should I move the ladder scene to later in the song when the chorus repeats? (I'm thinking yes.)

Ideas bouncing in my head now include getting some SWN footage for use in one or more places.

http://marten.treeweasel.com/Uru/talktest2.wmv (about 4 megabytes)
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Cycreim · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:50 am Post subject:

Ok... this is more of an abstract idea than something concrete... one of the things I thought was the most interesting about this video was the sequence with the Bahro stone, and the way the camera seemed to move "into" it.

Maybe you could structure the video around the way that talk "spreads" in the Cavern. Talking about new things, spreading pictures, using the imagers... you've already got some great stuff in there, but I feel like each shot should be related to the other in a narrative way.

The video starts at the Cleft... so maybe you can think of it starting with a new explorer, and then jumping from explorer to explorer as they talk about what's going on. So instead of just showing scenes that relate to the lyrics, you'll be showing people showing us things that relate to the lyrics. I feel like though there should be cuts in the video, it should FEEL like a single shot, constantly moving, similar to the way that conversation moves.

At the end, the video could return to the first explorer being at the front of the room at SWN.
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Durin Mephit · Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject:

Those are some interesting ideas, Cycreim. I will probably incorporate some of that into the finished video, although not the full vision as you're thinking of it.

I feel the song is more about needing to talk, than about actual talking. We, the explorers, need to talk to the DRC. We need to talk to Yeesha. We need to talk to the Bahro. Yet all of these seem like unapproachable entities... and when they do speak with us, we don't always understand what they are trying to say. I feel like they're talking in a language I don't speak, and they're talking it to me.

A few things happened in the past few days that made things "click" for me. Wutt/D'Neile posted a video letter to Yeesha, and I had a conversation with Erik about the bureaucracy of the DRC and how we're really getting even less information from them now than we did three years ago. JWPlatt made a joke last night that we'll finally start seeing more of the DRC after they are done with Marie's burial. And of course, there have been the sightings of Bahro, and the new city stones that have appeared throughout the Bevins.
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Durin Mephit · Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:20 am Post subject:

Time for another test.

I should give this another break and come back to it later. Hopefully this will generate more ideas. I've worked Cycreim's idea in a little... showing different explorers at each step. Perhaps they'll come together at a later point in the video?

This version has no "Incomplete Scene" images. It's a little shorter but feels more coherant.

http://marten.treeweasel.com/Uru/talktest3.wmv
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dcos · Great Tree Member Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 1174

Shucks Marten your Music Vids are always fantastic Very Happy

This new version does feel more coherant and I love the transition into the bahro stone. But I do miss the bahroglyphs on the imagers, that really hit me first time I watched it. Maybe just cause I hadn't seen them in cavern or something. It fitted the lyrics perfectly somehow, but maybe I was the only one who got that. Anyway great work again!

Durin Mephit · Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject:

Oh, the imager will probably be back in the film before I'm done with it.
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homerjay · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:04 am Post subject:

Durin Mephit · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:10 am Post subject:

homerjay: As I said... it was a joke. Smile

Marie is fine, she's just very busy on the surface dealing with personal business. She's just been absent so long, some explorers had wondered if something bad had happened.
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